I was like, What the hell is this? Then, slowly but surely, I started to gravitate towards them. I have very fond memories of all the people I met there. Some shotguns, a .30-06, a .30-30. Today, thats what the gangs call itthe Bloods, the Crips, all of them, they call it flagging: I die for my flag. We burned fires in the tunnels in the winter to stay warm, and we went swimming in the Bronx river when it was hot. At that time I was doing a lot of harm to the Dukes, and the cops figured, lets get him off the streets. They banded together too, and thats the way it went. For instance, my friend Dusty got stabbed, and he came back from the Bronx really late, and I hung out with him the whole night at the hospital. The battle lines between opposing armies had already He died in a tragic fuckin condition. But it wasnt like they asked us to. Our "uniform" was teal bowling shirts with black velvet vertical stripes. By the time I started with the Unknowns, I already had a little reputation. Who was I supposed to hang out with? Having an Active Minds Chapter in your school can be an important step in changing the conversation about mental health. Wed cut a hole in the fence, go in the cemetery, and have make-out sessions. I lived down the block from an armory, and there was a sergeant who would come every morning and buy seven bags of dope. This time it was a Red Wings invasion. Five leather jacket clad Astoria gangs almost mix it up with We did most of our dirty business on the railroad tracks, so we got the name The Railroad Boys. All except the sadistic Ducky Boys who seem to suddenly materialize at the opportune moment, are more like social clubs and do little besides partying and hanging out. It went right through his forearm. You know, you pull it out or you just display it, and people say, OK, were not gonna mess around. Most of the time when you would shoot, you did it not to hurt somebody, but to scare them. You just couldnt believe it. BRONX, UPTOWN SPADES,HARLEM TURKETTES, SATAN ANGELS, SAVAGE SKULLS, ROYAL JAVILINS, GESTAPO CREW, THE UNIVERSAL ZULU NATION, and THE REAPERS 1ST DIV/MAIN DIV/ AND Juniors. Or somebody would tell me, Listen, I got a van, brand new, and I wanna collect insurance. So he would tell me where he parked it. Big deal.. We were trying to hide, actually, because the NYPD Youth Squad was always down here, asking us questions like who was who, and who was our leader. He was so fuckin mad he didnt pay attention, and the guy went around the corner and when Frankie came after him, he was waiting, and hit him with a two-by-fourwhamright across the head. I always sniffed. Heroin was a big thing in the 60s. But you can find where it was filmed on this list. He was invincible. I would say, three out of every five shootouts, somebody would get hit. We hung around Aberdeen Park. Now, everybody else has a bike. Like if we were walking down the street and we saw one of the Spanish guys with his girlfriend, we wouldnt beat him up. It was an abandoned building. Youd fire a round in the air, and theyd say, Oh shit, theyre shooting, and theyd run. I never wore Property of. In the gang, the girls used to have to wear Property of on their jackets. From Spanish Harlem, we moved to the South Bronx. The Brooklyn clubs were OK, but the clubs from the Bronx and Queensthe Savage Skulls, the Nomadsthey could cause some problems. Our big thing was buying cough medicine. The Wanderers (1979) - The Fordham Baldies MOV Clips 31.8K subscribers Subscribe 178 25K views 2 years ago American comedy-drama film written and directed by Philip Kaufman and starring Ken Wahl,. The year is 1963 but their experiences are universal: falling in love, surviving in school and defending their turf against rivals like the Fordham Baldies, the Del Bombers and the Ducky Boys. That was my opportunity. I also belonged to a gang from Mount Vernon, a somewhat more serious group. I added a stub to stave off the CSD folks - the article does need fleshing out, but as a stub you should be given some time to do so. It could more than double in size at that point. If I had to stick you, I would stick you. Richard Price lived in Parkside Projects and hung out with a different crowd then us. The '50s and '60's were a time when loyalty actually meant esteem, consequence, and prestige. Interestingly, this second nephew of Ernests that emailed me works just a few miles from where Ernest was shot and killed. Some people were robbing other gangs for their drugs. When we were on Lee Avenue there was this black guy. If you looked down the hill toward Evergreen Avenue, there was a schoolyard, and thats where all the black kids used to hang out. I went over to the South 9th Bikers in early 1980, the same year I went to jail. That was our block, so we had to protect everybody from other people who would come in and mess up the block. The Fordham Baldies in a way were my first singing group, They would back up my singing and guitar playing in my Bronx Neighborhood, Schoolyard Parties, Our Clubroom Dances,1956, 1957 They were with them most of the day. But I wasnt there, I just wound up getting accused of it. There was a lot of acrimony between the Red Wings and Puerto Rican gangs from East Harlem like the Dragons and Viceroys. Like I remember coming home and having my sister-in-law crying, and I would walk in the house and make believe I didnt know why. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. Also, we used to have a lot of gay guys come around and theyd get us a couple pills, some marijuana, and bullets for our zip guns. Unlike the idiotic movie the wanderers, however, they didn't have any blacks in the gang, they went around to other neighborhoods to see if they could find some to beat up. banerjee@fordham.edu. Thats where the money was. The story is really about our group of friends, our football team and yes, a rival crowd on the other side of Bronx Park. On the west side of Astoria, members came from the By the way, there were always fights yet it was all handled with reverence, one on one. A couple times, wed take somebody down there and leave em, maybe tied up, and he had to get out by himself. His father was a building super. That was a typical night. Youre walking down the street, you see somebody that you dont like, who isnt in your gang. Naturally, there were a lot of shot-up people. Wed break into cars, stuff like that. In the 60s, the Puerto Ricans and blacks were coming in like there was no tomorrow. On weekdays, there was always some 'ducky members' to be found playing hooky." Plus, if you had a leather jacket on and I shot you, chances are the bullet wouldnt even go through the jacket. You showed up at the park at seven and we walked down Bushwick Avenue and wed do what we had to do. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. It made his brain all fucked-up. We rumbled with their guys, and that started a war between the clubs. I saw him on the corner at South 10th and Bedford, and I started shooting. That was it. There was one Irish kid, I think, and one black kid. Anybody who had a Boy after their nameJohnny Boy, Frankie Boythey were always in trouble, cause they were always trying to prove they were a man. Film Details Also Known As Wanderers MPAA Rating R Genre Adaptation Comedy Drama Period Release Date 1979 Distribution Company KINO LORBER/ORION PICTURES Technical Specs Duration 1h 53m Sound Stereo Color Color (Technicolor) Theatrical Aspect Ratio 1.66 : 1 We were always armed. Police break up gang rumble in the making on a Saturday night in People started making money on their own and they forgot about their buddies. And I tell you, it was a great fuckin scam. They werent pussies. My mentality wasnt, I have to join that gang. It was, I like the guy, the guy likes me. Before you knew it, I married the president of the gang. During this time, both began to listen to rock and roll and go to dances on Friday Night. We were in the papers more than the president. NYC Youth Gangs - 1950s. The Spanish guys were different. It took a lot of people out. The Hunts Point area is the poorest place you can be. The Red Wings were a well-known and powerful Italian gang situated in East Harlem. Rainy days, wed be inside watching TV. There was nothing you could do about it. Nowadays, everybodys got a gun or a knife. The story is set in The Bronx in 1963, starring a series of young actors who were mostly first-timers and relative unknowns. True, that could be any college. We went to the roof above this nightclub and when they started coming out, we just rained bottles and bricks down on their heads. Everyone had a little more respect in them days. I was with him for 24 years, so I was a real part of it. FInally, since when was DeWitt Clinton "docile"??? It goes something like this: While at school, a rumour makes the rounds that the Baldies are coming to the school (insert school name here). Students are in an uproar and are on pins and needles, waiting for a Baldy invasion. They had another Italian neighborhood, down on Cherry Street and Madison that was just the same as ours. Its like a family, or the police department, or the priesthood. And to make it more interesting, this gang fight happened far from East Harlem it happened in the Bronx in Baldies turf at 189th Street and Belmont Ave. I would buy it from Italian guys over on Avenue D, but not guys that we actually knew. There were also after school programs Stephanie went to that had a lot of activities for the kids. It was like one big family. Thats when we were first coming up. Pichon, President of the original Latin Kings of Highbridge Park, '63, currently living in the West Coast. I was from one side of the Southside, and the Unknowns were from the other side. This event took place in Washington Heights, We were so fuckin broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. So a lot of guys ODd. Egyptian Dragons". Corona Queens - Best Italian Ice in New york City. You see it firsthand, and its all bullshit really. I would break into the sweater factory, the clothes factory, the pillow factory I even broke into a coffin factory one day. Wed eat, drink wine, hang out, bullshit, discuss what we were going to do that day, whether we were going to go visit another club or if there was going to be some kind of party. I removed the references to Brooklyn gangs in popular culture - does not make any sense to have them there - this article is not about Brooklyn. We were able to do that, whereas the newcomers werent. Convicted Red Wings were Frank Ciappetta, Vincent Gugliemelli, Philip Bonanno, Jerry Santaniello and Frank Giampetruzzi. On a warm Saturday night, wed all be up on the hill. at a dance between the Lucky Lords and the Counts. But I stole. Here's the spotify link:https://open.spotify.com/artist/0FJNuMjFZHeQKJXR0DlmzX?si=RjpC0Rx4SpWB7sXFlct-Qg\u0026utm_source=copy-link\u0026dl_branch=1\u0026nd=1 We spent a couple nights in jail. Baldies didn't shave their heads and in reality wore Ducks Ass hairdoos like The Fonz and were named after bald eagles? We had a buyer for every piecenot even from garages. Just passing through. It wasnt about, This is where were hanging out, anymore. We used to wrap the gun up with a lot of tape, because those things had a tendency to blow up in your hands. lol" Another former gang member from the Garrisons had this to say about the Duckies: "If you were planning to visit the Botanical Gardens in the Bronx you needed to concern yourself with the "Duck(ie)s." Legend has it, if you are visiting the Bronx Botanical Gardens and blast out a 'Duckie Whistle', Duckies will show up to greet you till this day! Often it was handled one on? Only Chinese guys did opium. We never really had any problem with the Hasidics. 42nd Street was like Mecca, where all the gangs would hang out on Friday night. They ran books, they stole, they shylocked money They ran the neighborhood, whatever they did. I remember cars coming by and shooting at the guys, then we would jump in the car and go after them. Any gear you could put on, no matter how hot or cold it was, you went to 42nd and wore your colors proudly. So this guy started going off with everybody. Gone is the cluttered window offerings of the candy store. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. Even the cops told my mother one time they knew I didnt have nothing to do with it. Each of us bought our own uniforms and equipment and we all chipped in for our bus fees for away games. 71.184.65.20 (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], That can't possibly be a real gang. The parents always got along, and we always respected their parents and they respected our parents. He was out on the street. The Duckies got their name because the original guys hung out at the Duck pond in the Bronx Botanical Gardens and shot at the ducks with slingshots, therefore, they eventually called themselves "Duckies". I think he got arrested. It was the fact that they were so cool with us. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. Eventually, though, it got to where you were lucky to get within a block of each other. Not embarrassed to say I was a member and yes, they were very real. I was trying to find my way out, and I went into this room and there was an opium den. Everyone was ready to enjoy the wind, sun and surf. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bronx_gangs_(1950s1960s)&oldid=1101692437, This redirect does not require a rating on the project's, This page was last edited on 1 August 2022, at 09:49. We had fun. Me and a few other guys started making a lot of noise, you know, fighting all these other gangs. One of the bullets hit Montuoro, hitting him in the aorta, killing him. Stripping you means taking your jacket by force. It was about territory. We were sitting on the corner of Longwood, drinking beer, and this particular club came by and started shooting. Premieres in 64 minutes February 20 at 4:30 PM BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Dusty Vision TV - DVTV 36.5K subscribers Subscribe 0 1 waiting Premieres Feb 20, 2023 Dusty Vision TV on. They knew it was my kid brother, but all the witnesses were saying it was me. The gang was started around 1955 by the older guys. Once you drink a couple gallons of that wine, youre ready to go. Fourth, sources.I will be doing some more research and adding much more information. Someone happened to see two of the guys from the Arabian Knights so we pulled over. They werent very accurate, either. So after a while, he would make an apartment available to us. In fact, sometimes the girls would rumble with other clubs without the guys knowing. Take on the world. They had high collars, buttoned down, and on the back you had RR. But we didnt really go out of our way too much with the sweaters and the costumes. He couldnt show up to collect his rent. First, we need to find some places that we could link to this page, so it gets some visibility. Wed see them coming, walking up Bushwick Avenue in a line of like 20 abreast. Any girl that wasnt a virgin, if you went out with her you couldnt let her get away, because there werent many around. It feels bad. And then he died. Not many fights broke out there. Murder Inc. came out of that neighborhood. Or wed buy a 40-ounce bottle of Budweiser, a quart of Ballantine, sit up on the hill and drink that. I was satisfied with sniffing. that Farmer was a member of a rival gang called "The Jesters" (It's not known whether or not Farmer was a gang member thougheven to this day). I carried a .25, then later a 9 mm. You wanted to teach him a lesson. This was on Fulton and Rockaway, a half block from my house. We had a clubhouse. They help people out. Dukes, as they were waiting for the "Chaplins" (Chaplains) to arrive. Every Friday and Saturday night I would go to factories on Bedford Avenue, Wythe Avenue, and Flushing Avenue. With us in the building, there was security. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. The Red Wings with Frank that June 1 were John Hall, Louis DePetris, Philip Bonnano, Jerry Santaniello and a girl only known as Bella. And a lot of these girls from these clubs, let me tell you, a lot of them could have been better fighters than Alis daughter. They fought on the handball court with no shoes on. If anything, wed protect them. I was always aware. It was nothing to have like three or four shootouts a day. Second, I want to expand the introduction. Ducking from shootouts and things like that. Like 12 or 13. We did not have a name but the name Duckie Boys did exist. That freaked me out. The University also supports a number of club sports, and a significant intramural . Chemistry Faculty. However, when they got there, the Fordham Baldies who had been frequenting Orchard Beach on a regular basis, found out the Red Wings were hanging out on Section 17 of the beach. Wed fire at a guy standing three feet away, and wed miss. One of the Red Wings yelled out, Are you the Fordham Baldies? At hearing this, Bernard, Angelo and Ernest approached the vehicle, standing about seven feet from the curb. The problem with that was, if you snatched one of their hats in the wrong neighborhood, youd have a hell of a chase. If he was alone, he got his ass kicked. It happened on a fateful late spring day in 1954. It was also common for someone to be walking down the street, and a car would stop, and a bunch of guys would jump out and beat on him. And of course, you dont let nobody take your colors. This was from a roof maybe four stories up. I wound up doing like 13 years and change in jail. Little Italy was strictly Italian. What do you think?--rocketrye12 talk/contribs 04:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], Sorry, didn't see this discussion - I changed the name to Bronx gangs (1950s-1960s) because that is specifically what is being discussed. I mean, these girls could fight. That was like Jersey to me, Avenue D. But like I said, yeah, the cops beat your ass. Inside, sipping a soda, was Ernest Montuoro. Anyway, we werent vicious kids. They gave my brother a summons, and I stood in jail for a decade and change. They You stick a car antenna in it and file down the part that you cock backthe hammer. *Click on Fullscreen to see the full trial minutes*. In the back of the park there were freight trains that ran underneath and there was one tunnel that was closed off due to an explosion. When I was in Spanish Harlem, the guys in gangs wore silk jackets with their name on the front and the club name on the back. Their turf was around Jefferson Park, 116th Avenue and Pleasant Ave. By the time Henry and Stephanie reached junior high school, gangs were becoming an issue, particularly the Fordham Baldies. Finally the Youth Squadthe special police squad they set up just to deal with the gang problemgot involved. He wanted to hang out so bad that he let us call him Snowball. down on them. Actually, I wish I could go back a couple years. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. bayonets, brass knuckles, and garrison belts before officers swoop We werent selling, we were just using. He suffers from asthma. There were some crazy kids, though. After that I knew it was nothing serious, so I never bothered to go to the hospital. Hispanics and Blacks were just coming into prominence in the late 50's. We just got along. You have every type of person in every club. Baseball Baseball: Facebook Baseball: Twitter Baseball: Instagram Baseball: Schedule Baseball: Roster Baseball: News Basketball Basketball: Facebook Basketball: Twitter Basketball: Instagram Basketball: Schedule Basketball: Roster Basketball: News Cross Country Cross Country: Facebook Cross Country: Twitter Cross . Back then, Id get up in the morning, 7:30 or so, go stand on the corner by the train station, and ask for quarters. Read more about Bronx Gangs (1950s1960s): Popular Culture, who chained themselves to subways for the endless ride from Batteryto holy Bronx on benzedrine until the noise of wheels and childrenbrought them down shuddering mouth-wracked and battered bleak of brain and drained of brilliance in the drear light of Zoo,Allen Ginsberg (b. Wed drink winewere talking now maybe one oclock in the afternoon. You could see how things escalated. These are the people that we grew up with. NYC. You usually carried a knife, something to protect you. They said, Why should I buy drugs to sell when I can steal his and sell them? It happened all the time. I remember my first encounter with a drive-by. In Williamsburg, where we were, it was the Majestics, the Dukes, the Unknown Bikers, South 9 Bikers, Spanish Kings, Devil Rebels, Dirty Ones, and a bunch more. You were whacked out of your face. We ran out of a restaurant without paying one time, ran down into this building, and they had like catacombs. Me and my brother are probably the only ones that dont have a bike. Thats when we started realizing that we had lost the numbers. So the guys said, If you dont do it, were gonna strip you. And thats where the war began. He left behind a wife and child. "When they were shooting the recruiting scene with the Fordham Baldies," Price recalled, "the actors were hanging out on the intersection of the Grand Concourse and Fordham Road right by Alexander's Department Store and Loew's Paradise, this massive Moorish movie palace. You dont fly your colors in my hood unless youre in one of my brother clubs. Joey DiMassi is leader of the Fordham Baldies, respected for his fairness and decency. I joined the gang so I could go out with a guy. Because of this gang fights between the two groups became the norm. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety.. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. When he died, my brother Carlos took over. Turns out he was an innocent bystander. Everybody kept their eyes open. What was so funny was that a lot of the people were intermingled, family-wise. We had a gang that started in high school. At about 4:55 p.m. after asking around where the Baldies hung out, the Red Wings rolled up on Piggys Candy store, double parking in front. That was the year when it started getting real serious. Apparently Mario and Ernest looked very much alike and although Mario didnt discuss the death of his brother, it was something that Marios son always knew about. DiVincenzos elbow took another bullet, which passed through his arm. One time, something had happened so I went looking for this guy to get him. It wasnt too hard to see the handwriting on the wall. 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