Can only reach its top speed on paved or hard surfaces, Roof armour of 19.5 mm thick is vulnerable to aircraft strafing runs with AP rounds. The turret top features a spotlight on the front loader's position with his oval hatch while the commander has a usual split hatch with an M2 Browning machine gun for him to use. It was introduced along with the rest of the American ground tree in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". The Firefly is one of the moremediocre out of the bunch. The 1956 Suez Crisis against Egypt was a curious case as the Egyptians also send their M4 Sherman inventory through a similar uparm program by adding the AMX-13 turret onto their M4 Shermans, giving them their own usage of the 75 mm SA50 gun on the M4 Sherman tanks.[1]. Dont since the nerf to the br's their about as far from user friendly as you can get, they require alot of skill to do wellthx to the snail (Gaijin). The new turret was based on the T23 turret (used on 76 mm gun armed Shermans), but it had the pistol port removed. A moderate slope will let me peek over with binoculars to spot my targets, before easing my gun over the top. It will carry its user wherever it likes but it takes some time to do so; don't count on it for hasty retreats as both reverse speed and hull turning are slow when this tank is stopped. The M4 748 (a) tank's mobility can be used to travel the distance on the battlefield in a satisfactory fashion. Great firepower, and terrible armor. The Sherman was a proven design and was easier to maintain, more mobile, and reliable. No. It was one of the first American tanks to be released with the American ground tree in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". Assign the machine gun selection to its own button so it can be fired and aimed independently. The 8072nd Tank Battalion was raised from Shermans from the occupational forces of Japan and were the first to be sent to Korea in July 1950. These proved successful as they were able to fight against the Soviet-supplied T-54 tanks and T-34-85s in Middle East service, proving the Sherman as a successful and adaptable design for many years to come. The M4 Sherman is a great flanker as it is fast enough to get the jump on the enemy's side. [Devblog] M4A4 (SA50) - The Desert Warrior, https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=M4A4_(SA50)&oldid=159971, Cast homogeneous armour (turret, gun mantlet, cupola, transmission carter, MG port). Harvest Russian and German tears until you get the apcr . This interim design put the 75 mm on a lower and limited traverse mount that restricted its firing angle, but it did give the Western Allies a tank with the gun, so it was issued by the thousands until a better design could be produced. The containers also placed all the ammunition in the bottom center of the tank, reducing the likeliness of it being hit by a shell as the penetrating shell must go through every armour and obstacle to hit the tank center. Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick, and tracks are 20 mm thick. Cromwell is in a lose-lose situation. The only downfall may be the 2 crew member position in the front that protrudes out to form a flat surface, but both are covered with an additional 20 mm plate. During the invasion of France, it was clear that the Sherman's current build with a 75 mm gun was no longer going to cut it against the German armoured forces. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. Once in position at their sides or rear, ambush them. When the Soviet started aiding the Middle East countries with tanks like the T-34-85, PT-76, and even the T-54s, Israel launched a program with cooperation with France to upgrade the Shermans. A total of 8053 of these tanks were built. Excellent gun depression of -10 plus the angled frontal turret allows it to utilise hills very well, Great penetration and post-penetration damage when using M61 shells; can frontally penetrate and knock out most opponents like the, Great turret traverse speed allows it to deal with multiple threats easily, Capable armour when angled and at a distance, Adequate top speed allows it to get to positions in time, or to do tactical manoeuvres like flanking, Pintle-mounted HMG provides an anti-aircraft defence or anti-tank duty against tanks like, Fitted with a vertical stabilizer, allowing more accurate fire on the move compared to other tanks, as well as better usage of shoot-n-scoot tactics, Large profile and weak side armour; flankers like the Sd.Kfz.234/2 can easily see and penetrate it, Frontal armour is still inadequate, it will get frontally penetrated and knocked out with a single shot by tanks like, The best M61 shell struggles to penetrate heavy targets like, Trajectory is curved and velocity is low due to its short barrel, thus distant/moving targets are hard to shoot at, Hull traverse is quite slow, making it sluggish in a turn. Armed with a 75 mm cannon and a sloped front armour, the M4 Sherman gives the balance of firepower and mobility for the US ground tree. When World War II ended, many tank units and their Shermans were decommissioned and put out of service, distributed out to NATO allies. The large quantities of Shermans produced during the war gave the Allied armoured units a major advantage of being fully equipped as the German panzer divisions were rarely in full strength, with some US infantry divisions having more tracked vehicles than some of the panzer divisions. The reasonable mobility of the Sherman makes flanking a viable tactic. The M4A3E2 received a new turret. 500 units were also for sale during the 5th Anniversary event. Also the narrow tracks offer poor ground flotation, thus poor off-road capabilities. Even without any modifications, its ability to fulfil its role, though where it begins to shine is with the M61 shot. In battle, try to use terrain as cover. Now it's the M4 Shermans time to die. It has problems vs heavy tanks (KV-1) and the 80mm armour Stugs, also against sloped armour sometimes (T-34). Shoot that and you are able to knock out the driver, gunner and loader in one go. Compared to the previous Shermans, this one presents better mobility than the last few due to the new horizontal volute suspension system (HVSS). "Palestinian Armor." The only tanks in their inventory at that time was the M2 light tank and the M2 medium tank, both are inadequate against the German Panzer IIIs and the Panzer IVs. When used by the Germans, the Shermans were often painted with Balkenkreuz cross symbol of the Wehrmacht to distinguish between friend and foe. The Pressed Steel Car Company kicked off production of the first M4 tanks in July 1942. Excellent 75 mm gun, arguably better than the legendary 17-pounder due to the penetration and accuracy of the gun, Outstanding penetration on the default APCBC at all ranges, Unlike the Sherman Firefly, the SA50 gets 10 degrees of gun depression. Are Sherman 105s actually god? Though in the bocage country of France, the Allies lost more tanks to hidden anti-tank guns and infantry weapons than to tanks. The thickness was from 4 in (101 mm) to 5.5 in (129 mm). WordPress, 20 Dec. 2015. To go into battle with the turret basket empty of ammo, pack 78, To go into battle with the turret basket and the flanks empty of ammo, pack 31. The most famous is Israel, who received a large handful of Shermans from the British to fight for its war of independence in 1948. At the end of March 1945 all M4 Shermans began to be fitted with the new suspension. The M4A3 plays more of a support role, use its powerful 76 mm as you assist your teammates during an advance or defense. It was one of the first American tanks to be released with the American ground tree in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". Between the M4A3E8 and the T-34-85, they were nearly identical in statistics as both were able to take each other out easily. Defeat the enemy at their weak front lines or go around the entire enemy force. Basically, I wanna show you "Where to Shoot" some tanks that many players are complaining about. The M4 Sherman is an effective medium-range combat tank. If you haven't already, please subscribe, as it means the world to me and helps to support my channel. M4A3(76)W HVSS production consisted of 4,542 tanks out of the total 49,234 Shermans produced in its production life. While most tanks in the BR range of the M4 748 (a) are quite capable of destroying the tank through the front, the most worrisome tanks are those that are quite immune to the 75 mm gun on the M4. The Sherman's turret traverse speed was very fast, able to traverse a full 360 degrees in only 15 seconds, which is considerably faster than the traverse speed on most German tanks. Sherman tanks equipped with the horizontal volute suspension system (HVSS) were given the added name "Super" in the designation. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. These two variants are distinguished by engine type as the M-50 Continental and the M-50 Cummins. There are many instances on a War Thunder battlefield where two opposing tanks face off against each other on a corner of cover, waiting for the other to pop out so it can deal a crippling blow with its gun or waiting for the other to prematurely fire so it can advance unhindered to a prime firing location. The German anti-tank abilities, ranging from rocket launchers, anti-tank guns, mines, and tank guns, all became more capable of penetrating the frontal armour or disabling the Sherman. The new HVSS suspension with its horizontal volute springs replaced the VVSS and its vertical alignment. It was one of the first American tanks to be released with the American ground tree in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". The Medium Tank M4A1 (76) W Sherman is a rank III American medium tank with a battle rating of 5.0 (AB) and 4.7 (RB/SB). Don't get flanked if at all possible and don't present your sides to a known enemy position - virtually anything can kill a Sherman from the side and, if hit, it's usually a OHK. The model is a "small hatch" variant as seen with the hatch shape being parallel with the hull. Jeeps_Guns_Tanks. #warthunder Sherman Discord W2A lets play together: https://discord.gg/66FhvcYRnc with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB/SB). This tactic is very efficient in urban combat, where long range precision shots are not required. The fielded Shermans in the German army was given the designation M4-748(a). The trials showed that the new suspension gave the Sherman a ground pressure that is even less than the heavier Panther, and this model was approved for production in March 1944, beginning in August 1944. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Track your progress by clicking your nickname and opening the 'Achievements' tab > German Unity Day A unique bundle and discounts! Powered by Invision Community. The Allies continued to use 75 mm Shermans until the Battle of the Bulge in Winter 1944, when the commanders request only 76 mm Shermans to be brought into Europe as the battle showed the intense armour disparity with the German's large numbers of Panthers and Tiger II tanks. The first M4a1 is probably one of the worst. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=M4_Sherman_(Family)&oldid=137221. The rear and top armor remained the same, and the lower hull sides were also unchanged. Only when you are facing their hull without any angles should you shoot the hull, otherwise shoot the turret only, as their big tracks can easily get in front of the frontal hull. I had an epiphany earlier today, it started after getting home from work yesterday; I'd had a bad day, as most people have these days, I played some tarkov with a friend, opening up warthunder after he got . So while the turret and tank design underwent development, the 75 mm would be mounted on the stopgap M3 Lee tank in a sponson mount. The divisions of the Wehrmacht had several such tanks which survived until Germany surrendered. Makes cresting ridgelines a good tactic, The gun mantlet is both large and V-shaped. Reveal hidden contents Low Bustle - (Unofficial) A type of 75mm Turret. For the Mk I Churchills, aim at the near-vertical part of their rounded cheeks to ensure successful penetrations. The M4A4 (SA50) is a rank III French medium tank with a battle rating of 5.0 (AB/RB/SB). In these cases, aim for weak points like the protruding hatches in the front sloping armour, or even the crest of the transmission housing, where the slope is minimum in both areas. Equipped with a fast-firing 75 mm gun and with good handling characteristics, the M4 can be an extremely useful asset in most battles. With good overall characteristics, this vehicle can play many roles on the battlefield. The Shermans were also reported to play a role as armour-recovery vehicles rather than tanks due to Sherman's great power-to-weight ratio and reliable design that allows for the ability to tow the heavier German vehicles reliably. The Shermans were reported to be used in the 14th Panzer Division, 16th Panzer Division, Fallschirmjger Division, and Kampfgruppe Berlin. Skins and camouflages for the M4A3 (76) W from live.warthunder.com. Once done - Horizontal Drive and two modifications responsible for accuracy or Artillery Support. "Its a bad craftsman that blames his tools" The Shermans are fine, you just have to make good choices and that will come with game experience. This tank gives the M4 Sherman the best upgrades possible, with a new suspension and a high-penetrating 76 mm cannon with access to APCR rounds. This is a high risk/high reward type of playstyle. 500 units were also for sale during the 5th Anniversary event. These two tanks featured armour that proved impenetrable when fired at the front, and with guns that could take out the Shermans from farther than the Sherman's effective combat range. The StuG's armour profile is also more complex than the Panzer IV, with less flat areas. While not ideal, they provide the Sherman tank with some measure of protection against aircraft- sometimes enough to dissuade a pilot from making another pass. Secondly, the Japanese forces' armoured units were rather inferior to the American tank forces by 1943. It stands up high, so will clear some walls and hills which will protect your thin-sided vehicle. While new units arriving in Europe were armed exclusively with 76 mm armed-Shermans, the veteran units kept the 75 mm Shermans, to which it continued to do well against softer targets with little threat from German armour due to their declining numbers. The flat plate on the right is the drivers port. The exterior was changed with the new horizontal-volute suspension system (HVSS), which presented a different bogie system with larger road wheels that allow the usage of a wider track for better mobility cross-country. One of my favorite tanks in the game is the French SASO (Sherman variant with a good gun) Everything dies from the side Tigers, Panthers, Jumbos, IS's etc so at no point will you want to expose your flanks. On the side hull, one distinctive feature of the M4 Sherman was the added appliqu over the sponson ammunition area. While a 75 mm gun was available for use, a turret able to mount the gun was not. It is possible for this tank to be put with Tiger H1s, Panthers and a lot of other tanks that can easily kill it and easily be killed by it. Aside from the enlarged T23 turret, the Sherman interior layout was largely unchanged from the original design. 3.0 Shermans,just act ast normal tank.Your tank do have a enough armor to bounce some shots.But evade to engage enemies on long range,use your speed and stabilisers to flank enemies. The olive-drab green M4 medium uses a welded construction for the hull, resulting in the sharp-edged hull shape compared to the cast M4A1 medium. Belly armour is 19.5 mm thick, though the tip near the transmission is 38.1 mm thick. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. In the midst of the battlefield in World War II, wreckage and broken down equipment are often left behind by the army on the field due to either the inability to recover them or they are no longer operable. Panzer IV F2/G/H/J - The historical nemesis of any Sherman, the Panzer IV is one of the Shermans biggest threats at this rank. Hull-down positions are especially strong in the M4 Sherman, as it has a good 10 degrees of gun depression. Shells are modeled individually and disappear from the rack after having been shot or loaded. The M4 was the most widely-used American tank ever developed, originally meant for World War II, but seeing service far after 1957, when the US retired them, with its latest retirement nation being Paraguay in April 2018. Kocant12, February 21, 2020 in Army Academy, Hello i need help playing American sherman tanks because im just really bad, edit: thank you guys for the help im getting better. Experienced Sherman commanders will like this tank as it drastically increases this old boy's lethality. As they are modeled by sets of 3 or 4, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired all shells in the set. In battle the M4 performs well as an all-rounder; the thick turret front and 10 degrees of gun depression make the tank ideal for taking hull-down positions which protect the thinner hull armour from being penetrated by enemy fire. And don't discount that .50-cal machine gun! In April 1942, the first M4A2 prototype was tested, and the tank was put into production. The Americans did an excellent job recognizing the problems with the M3's main-calibre weaponry being mounted in a side sponson. M4A3 (76) Ws fought on the Western Front in 1945 and in the Korean War from 1950 to 1953. The other variants are slightly harder to deal with. When discussing M4 shells, one always has to account for the fact that it's a medium tank. Excellent gun depression of -10 plus the angled frontal turret allows it to utilise hills very well, Great penetration and post-penetration damage when using M61 shells; can frontally penetrate and knock out most opponents with a single shot, Vertical stabiliser allows it to fire on the move, or, in a sudden encounter, fire before the enemy which is critical, Well angled frontal armour; when angling the hull it can deflect some low calibre / low-penetrating shells like the Stuarts' 37 mm, 75 mm M1, 76 mm F-34 / Zis-5 and others, Adequate top speed allows it to get to positions in time, or to do tactical manoeuvres like flanking, Rather fast reload speed for follow up shots, Plenty of reserve ammunition for prolonged fighting without replenishing at captured points, Due to it being a part of the German tech tree, will not have to face the long barrel 75 mm (RB/SB) which increases its survivability quite a bit, Inexperienced players might mistake it for an allied Sherman, especially in RB and SB, Large profile and weak side armour; flankers like the M24 Chaffee can easily see and penetrate it. The last batches, which were made beginning at the end of 1943, had the front of their hulls made from cast and rolled pieces. These used a vertical-volute suspension system (VVSS), but the added weight of the gun inhibited the M-50's flotation and mobility, so this was shifted to use the HVSS and the Cummins diesel engine. Here we have the early M4 Sherman in a few games. The Israeli gave away several of the M-50 Shermans to Lebanon to aid supporting militia groups in the Lebanese Civil War, in this conflict two were captured by Palestine, which they used against during the 1982 Lebanon War. As such, exploiting side armour and general weak points of opposing tanks are still a must. These protrusions create "shot traps" as they were in a near vertical position that gave less protection on the front armour than the sloping areas. Web. On top of the commander's cupola is the distinctive .50 cal M2 Browning machine gun that is commonly seen on American vehicles. 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