The first prototype was soon delivered and testing occurred between July and August 1970, followed by the production of a second prototype in 1971. Engine:819hp MTU MB 838 Ca M500, 10-cylinder, multi-fuel Power-to-weight ratio:19.6 PS/tonne Suspension:Torsion-bar Operational range:450km Top Road Speed:65 km/h Leopard 1 Support Vehicles Badger AEV Leopard 1 Chassis Clickhereto view vehicle In German storage Beaver AVLB Leopard 1 Chassis Clickhereto view vehicle In German storage Taurus ARV The ZSU-57-2 can be easily destroyed by hitting one of the many ammo racks in the big turret, which often leads to an explosion of the whole tank. The armor of the vehicle was quite thin, but it was decided that technological advances in anti-tank shells had essentially rendered armor obsolete: survivability would depend on mobility and firepower. The transmission was one of the AMX-30's major faults and caused a variety of mechanical problems, including that the driver would have to manually change gears at specific times, even if the tank was moving over rough terrain. Prototype developed from 1960 through 1961 as a medium tank for the Bundeswehr, with a total of 26 prototypes manufactured. [50] The gearbox was an AMX 5-SD-200D, with five forward gears and five reverse gears. Leopard 1 vs M60 Patton | Comparison tanks specifications Compare tanks Leopard 1 M60 Patton Share Leopard 1 and M60 Patton Specifications Caliber 0 25 50 75 100 125 Leopard 1 M60 Patton Caliber [mm] More Dimensions Leopard 1 M60 Patton Length Width Height 0 2 4 6 8 10 Images Leopard 1 Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick. [42][43] HEAT warheads suffer when spin stabilized, a product of rifled barrels,[44] causing the French to develop the Obus G,[34] (Gresse). The design finished trials by the end of 1963 and production started in Munich in February of 1964. Development was started in 1956. The vehicle had maneuverability, engine power, and effective anti-tank engagement distance superior to all other vehicles except the Leopard 1. [118] Ultimately, Spain opted for the AMX-30 for a variety of reasons, including British unwillingness to sell the L7 tank gun to a fascist regime[119] and the French offer to allow the AMX-30 to be manufactured in Spain. Object 140. They were controlled by an analogue computer, receiving information from a Doppler radar, which could be folded into an armoured box when not in use to protect from damage. The Leopard 1 saw service in the armies of more than 10 countries. Both the hull and the turret are welded with cold steel RHA. 113K views 2 years ago L'AMX-30 est un MBT de deuxime gnration, qui a quip l'arme franaise pendant plus de trente ans. Other countries followed suit by upgrading their tanks to either the Leopard 2, the American M1 Abrams, or their own domestic tank designs. [9][12] In 1951 it was decided to turn the program into a heavy tank project with an even larger 120-millimetre (4.7in) tank gun; though three prototypes were built, this too was abandoned in 1956, mainly due to a failure to design a powerful enough engine. It is advised to take out the gunner first, which is located in the left side of the turret and then take out the rest of the remaining crew members. Germany used a total of 2,437 Leopard 1 tanks, of various variants. Kit no. [115], France eventually also failed to obtain orders from the remaining two FINABEL nations, Belgium and the Netherlands: the Dutch did not even test the type and the Belgians ordered the Leopard when France refused to allow partial component production of the AMX-30 in Belgium, fearing it would increase the unit cost. They both are much lighter than the other two and have much weaker armor, from what I could find less than 100 millimeters frontally. It can support weighs of up to 46 metric tons (51 short tons). [64] The BRENUS system used 112[68] GIAT BS (Brique de Surblindage) G2 explosive reactive boxes with a total weight of 1.7 metric tons (1.9 short tons), offering a protection equivalent to 400 millimeters (16in) of steel at 60 versus shaped charges[64] and more than 100 millimeters (3.9in) of steel versus kinetic energy projectiles such as APFSDS. The Leopard 1 is also one of the stars of Tankfest 2022 and will show off . Powerplant: 1 x Hispano-Suiza HS 110 12-cylinder water-cooled supercharged muli-fuel engine developing 720 horsepower at 2,000rpm. I was recently reading about various second generation tanks and I noticed that there seem to have been two different ideologies. World of Tanks, WoT, 1.12 patchNEW VIDEO ON THE 2nd CHANNEL!!! The vehicle was the predecessor of the Leopard medium tank. Developed as part of a competitive search for a unified European tank. Denmark no longer uses Leopard 1 tanks as an MBT (replaced by leopard 2), but still uses an armoured recovery vehicle variant. Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination. [2] During the occupation, the French had secretly worked on an armour program that was, in 1944, taken over by the state workshop Atelier de Construction de Rueil (ARL), resulting in the design and production of the ARL 44, which began production in 1946. E-100, VK 72.01 K , : . [35], The first production versions of the AMX-30, named AMX 30B to distinguish them from the AMX 30A prototypes,[36] were completed in June 1966, manufactured with a welded and cast hull and a fully cast turret. The first prototypes were built in 1965 at the Krauss-Maffei factory. I am very afraid to admit it, but while Leopard 1 was my most favourite tank, I probably found a new one. Due to political issues between Chile and Argentina, the former placed an order for 46 tanks, although this was later cut short to 21 when the contract was canceled by the French government in 1981. Armoured recovery vehicles and bridge-laying variants remain in service. Later, a multi-fuel diesel engine was adopted, developed by Hispano-Suiza. Protection, instead, was provided by the speed and the compact dimensions of the vehicle, including a height of 2.28 metres. 280 units were manufactured by Santa Brbara Sistemas for the Spanish Army, between 1974 . The prototypes were tested up to 1963. It was introduced in Update 1.51 "Cold Steel" . The 22-meter-long (24yd) bridge can span 20-meter (22yd) gaps. Tunexlife. For more information, please see our 1. The German tank became the Leopard 1, while the French prototype became the AMX-30. Developed in 1966. !Das Spiel knnt ihr hier kostenlos downloaden: www.worldoftanks.euWollt ihr euer Replay von mir analysiert haben, dann schaut bitte hier vorbei und lest euch vorher die Teilnahme Regeln bitte durch:http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/571078-youtubetwitch-mouzakrobat/Replays sind aus der Version: 9.17 [25] Team B was made up by Ruhrstahl, Rheinstahl-HANOMAG and Henschel. [70] Its hull and turret are fully covered by a superstructure built of angled plates made of radar absorbent material. The design stressed mobility as the main focus, while firepower comes next and armour was relegated to minimum priority. [24] Oscillating turrets also had a large ballistic weakness in the area of the skirt and turret ring. [103], The first prototype of an improved AMX-30 for the export market, known as the AMX-32, was unveiled in June 1979. Another 493 tanks were refitted and modernized to AMX-30B2 standards;[109] originally 271 new and 820 refitted vehicles had been planned. [143] In all, the AMX-30s fired 270 main gun rounds. Turkey also purchased 227 A3 variants. The first five tanks were issued to the 501st Rgiment de Chars de Combat (Tank Regiment) in August of that year. The Netherlands operated 468 Leopard 1 tanks, and are replaced with Leopard 2 tanks. It is recommended to carry as little ammo as possible, about 20 rounds, as the majority will be stored in the rack at the front left of the vehicle, being an extreme vulnerability if overloaded when in a head-on engagement. (TES), yang membutuhkan waktu 4 tahun untuk mewujudkan simulator tank AMX ini. Leopard 1 vs. Bat.-Chtillon 25 t. Leopard 1 vs. Bat.-Chtillon 25 t. Leopard 1 vs. AMX 30 B. Leopard 1 vs. Comparing: AMX 30 1er prototype vs. Leopard 1 . I basically skipped the entire thing and unlocked the A1A1 at the time, which is an improvement but it's not amazing either.. the M48 also isn't great so the whole BR kinda sucks. Developed in 1966. [21] The next year, however, the project suffered a first setback when Charles de Gaulle took power in France, creating the Fifth Republic: the Paris treaty had as its main point developing a common nuclear weapon and on 17 June 1958 de Gaulle decided to refuse Germany and Italy the atomic bomb, to avoid antagonizing the US and United Kingdom. This caused a rift between France and West Germany, which then started to emphasize standardization with American equipment, especially in armament, and to follow the new NATO policy to use multifuel diesel engines. [54], During the production run, many improvements were implemented. In 1976, Denmark acquired 120 Leopard 1A3 tanks. May be. Named the Palmier Contract, Saudi Arabia's tanks were delivered between 1973 and 1979, while 59 AMX-30Ds were exported between 1975 and 1979, 12 AMX-30Ps between 1977 and 1979, and finally 51 self-propelled howitzers, delivered between 1979 and 1980. Connexion Contactez-nous. This included a maximum width of 3.15 metres (10.3ft), a height of 2.15 metres (7.1ft) and a 105-millimetre (4.1in) tank gun, to be developed by the Franco-German military research institute at Saint Louis. In 1970 the prototypes were shown to journalists and participated in a military . Well, that depends on your battlefield, really! Originally intended as an alternative for the AMX-30B2, and deliberately imitating the spaced armour concept the Germans had successfully implemented on the Leopard 1A3 and A4,[104] the AMX-32 fielded greater armour protection to offer increased survivability against anti-tank guided missiles. This version also came devoid of the pressurized air filtering system, and moved the smaller 7.62-millimeter (0.300in) machine gun into the coaxial position and the larger 12.7-millimeter (0.50in) M2 to the turret roof. I've also found that the play style I've developed playing it has improved my skills tremendously. [63] From 1998, the French army started to replace the engines of its remaining AMX-30 tanks and variants with 500 Renault Mack E9 750hp engines. Owner of this site is not responsible for potential mistakes or lacks of data. [45] In a series of corporate mergers under state guidance, most of these firms would eventually be concentrated into GIAT. [40] Further protection is offered by a nuclear, biological and chemical protection suit, including a ventilation system. Ariete. Its hull and suspension were similar to that of the German Panther tank, which had been used by the French Army in the immediate post-war. The Leopard 1 saw service in the armies of more than 10 countries. I know there wasnt a full conflict to really show which worked better but I was hoping for information on the effectiveness of the opposing systems. [16] The specifications (FINABEL 3A5)[17] for the new tank called for a lightweight and mobile battle tank, setting the weight limit to 30 metric tons (33 short tons) and compromising the ability to heavily armour the vehicle. This gun is loaded manually. [12] In 1969, a special diving and evacuation training vehicle, without engine or tracks, was created and nicknamed the AMX 30 Gloutte (from the French faire glouglou, "gurgle"); it could be quickly be lowered by winch into a reservoir and was equipped with an escape tube. [107] By 1971, about 180 vehicles were in service; in 1975 delivery began of the last 143 units of the final eighth batch of the original order. Once you get the heatfs it's probably fine, but with me Leo 1 I didn't get past parts, fpe and hesh. Always have that in mind when positioning yourself against the enemy - and don't forget that you don't have to stack all of your ammunition racks to their maximum capacity! 1 tahun pertama dipakai untuk mengembangkan konsepnya, sedangkan untuk produksinya diperlukan waktu 3 tahun. [5] The prototypes were designated M4s, and AMX completed its prototype in 1949, while SOMUA would not be finished until 1956. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Object 907. This MBT is armed with the British L7A3 105 mm rifled gun. The Leopard 1 was retired from service in July 2007. Specifications for the new tank came in July 1957 asking for a design weighing no more than 30 tons, with a power-to-weight ratio of 30 horsepower per ton and could withstand 20 mm gunfire alongside protection against chemical weapons and radiation fallout, which was becoming extremely common protection system for the modern tank designs. The Leopard's worst nemesis are the ZSU-57-2, the PT-76-57 and the IT-1. The project for the Leopard started as far back as 1956 as an attempt to replace the American M47 and M48 Patton tanks in service at the time as they were becoming outdated to newer anti-tank technology. In the latter case the vehicle must be supported by removable props, which are carried on the vehicle, and the bulldozer blade must be lowered on the ground. [20] The new tank would have an air-cooled, petrol engine, a torsion bar suspension with hydraulic shocks, a power-to-weight ratio of at least 30 horsepower (22kW)/metric ton and a road range of at least 350 kilometres (220mi). At the end of the evaluations in September 1971, a pre-series of five vehicles was ordered, resulting in a new period of evaluations beginning on 16 October 1972. By 1979, seven prototypes had been produced, and six pre-series vehicles, followed by the production of 110 vehicles. La colle, les peintures et un pinceau sont inclus dans la boite. Started by Soldier360, Apr 30 2012 - 23:27. Greece bought 104 Leopard 1A3s in 1983. during 1992, Greece received a further 75 Leopard 1A5. The turret front is also the same, it's best to attempt to only fire when you can avoid receiving a shot or relocating to a position if possible. Det er den frste kampvogn som Vesttyskland udviklede og producerede efter 2. verdenskrig. Leopard 2A5 - The Leopard 2A5 is a dangerous opponent, with a small gun mantlet weak spot and impenetrable turret cheeks. All rights reserved. X Leopard 1; X Kpz 50 t; X Maus; X E 100; X VK 72.01 K; X VK 90.01 (P) X Jg.Pz. Frontally, the angle of the hull can bounce shots once in a while, but you're better off not to rely on this. Object 907A. This allowed the projectile to be spin-stabilized, and therefore more accurate than a normal fin-stabilized HEAT round, while the inner shell did not spin, allowing the warhead to work at maximum efficiency. )[96] Developed to defend against low-altitude attacks, the system included two Hispano-Suiza 30-millimeter (1.2in) 831 A automatic guns, coupled to an Oeil-noir fire control system. [28] The trials indicated that the German type, on 1 October also getting its own name Leopard, had a better mobility and acceleration. However! The Leopard 1 saw service in the armies of more than 10 countries. By 1960, Porsche and Rheinmetall had prototypes submitted, as well as AMX from France, all the others failed to provide a prototype in time. [12] The production version of the tank had a combat weight of 36 metric tons (40 short tons). 121, T-62a, O. However, the Leclerc is wider at 3.60 m compared to 3.36 m (with side skirts) of the latter. [133] In 1977, France and Qatar signed an agreement which garnered France another 24 AMX-30s sold, which would rise to 54 when Qatar ordered a further 30 AMX-30B2s in 1987. To create this deadly shrapnel inside the tank, make sure to only hit armour plates which are directly adjacent to the interior crew compartment of the tank. AMX 30 vs Leo 1 All Ground Anyone else found they can't go back to the Leo 1 after playing the AMX 30? Brazil currently operates 128 Leopard 1BE and 250 Leopard 1A5. Length. By the early '70s, the inferiority of the AMX-30 compared to more modern Soviet T-series MBTs had become obvious. starting in 2000, the Canadian government upgraded the Leopard 1 C1 to Leopard 1 C2. If you have the possibility to hit a Russian tank's hull, which is again faced towards you, prioritize it, because it is likely to take it out with one shot to the right side of the hull (3 out of 4 crew member are sitting in a row), this does not work with the stock APDS round due to the poor damage output. APDS rounds do require some finesse with their placement, and because of the lack of explosive filler, unless you're confident you can destroy the enemy before they can respond, you should attempt to disable their weaponry first to ensure your own safety. [15], Less costly and easier to maintain, the AMX-30 has been preferred over the Leopard 1 by less affluent or developed nations. Scan and use the terrain to your advantage. Finally, the tank received new tungsten penetrator APFSDS high-velocity ammunition in 1981. [94][95], The self-propelled anti-aircraft gun began development in 1969 to provide this type of vehicle to the French Army and for export. The main strengths of the Leopard I are its high mobility and the above-average rate of fire of the main cannon. A prototype was finished in 1967 with a new cast turret, wide enough to hold the much larger armament. Despite the efforts of the greatest correspondence with the reality, there is no guarantee, that all the data is true. So of these two ideologies, which was more effective? AltProto AMX 30 Legend of the Hunter 2021 Fictional Revenant AMX 13 90 Bonus code (Canceled Halloween Event 2019) Fictional Hornet AMX 13 90 Mirny-13 2020 Non-historical Marengo Bat.-Chtillon 25 t AP Unknown Historical The vehicle carries 42 rounds of ammunition, with combustible cartridge cases. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. [10] AMX's first prototype was armed with a 90-millimeter (3.5in) cannon, although a second prototype was fitted with a larger 100-millimetre (3.9in) gun in July 1950[9] Although it was intended to put the AMX 50 into production as the standard medium tank of the Western European Union,[7] financial reasons and the arrival of military aid from the United States in the form of 856 M47 Patton tanks[11] caused the original program to be abandoned. A 20-millimeter (0.79in) autocannon was included as the main gun's coaxial weapon, and a 7.62-millimeter (0.300in) machine gun attached to the roof. [141] With the beginning of the ground offensive of 24 February 1991, French forces moved to attack its first target, "Objective Rochambeau", which was defended by a brigade from the Iraqi 45th Infantry Division. In the 1991 Gulf War, AMX-30s were deployed by both the French and Qatari armies. The AMX-30 is a main battle tank designed by Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX, then GIAT) and first delivered to the French Army in August 1966. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The first prototypes were built in 1965 at the Krauss-Maffei factory. [13] It was expected that West Germany would soon be allowed to rearm, and the Germans had appeared to entertain the concept of equipping their forces with a host of low-cost light, but relatively powerfully armed tanks, their quantity compensating for a lack of full armament parity with the latest medium tanks. Cookie Notice Like the APDS shot, increased armour thickness results in a reduced amount of shrapnel after penetration. As a result, work on developing a . Leopard 1 is a horrible stock grind.. IDK if the Leo 1 is specifically OP at 7.3, but there's 0 reason at all why the Leo 1 and AMX-30 should be at different BR's. Either both should be 7.7 or both should be 7.3. The 28.8 liters (1,760cuin) engine could be replaced on the field in 45 minutes, and produced 720 horsepower (540kW), offering the tank a maximum velocity of 65 kilometers per hour (40mph) on roads. [56], Beginning as early as 1973, only seven years after the beginning of production, the French began a research program for a future modification of the tank. The AMX-30 is the first tank to use France's very own 105 mm . Leopard 2. Although this particular vehicle began production in 1962, the appearance of the AMX-30 offered a larger chassis to which the S 401 A turret could be mounted on, providing superior mobility. Main battle tank of the Federal Republic of Germany. The neutral steering is amazing, you are able to swivel your tank easily, and can be used to boost turret rotation speeds. The Roland's exploration radar has a detection range of 16 kilometers (9.9mi). However, remember to be flexible and relegate this strategy to teammates using vehicles dedicated to this role (such as the JPz 4-5), as you are still a main battle tank and have other strengths, that they may not be suited to perform. Leopard 1 er en mellemtung kampvogn, produceret i Vesttyskland fra 1965 . Then, after you have located the enemy, fire a few rounds in quick succession and relocate when spotted, especially when the enemy shots come dangerously close. [23] As a result, the program was cancelled and the French and Germans definitely decided to adopt their two separate tanks. Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle, Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder. [97], Three missile systems were developed to be mounted on the AMX-30 chassis. [15] That same year, on 28 November,[15] the French and German ministries of defence in Paris agreed upon a contract which would allow both countries to produce two prototypes separately. Sometimes it can be wise to take less ammunition with you, as it will increase your survivability when taking hits - especially with the Leopard. The upgrades to the power packs were new MTU MB833 Ka501 diesel engine with 850 hp, ZF LSG-3000 automatic transmission, new engine cooling system, and increased fuel capacity up to 1,028 liters. [121] As production of the AMX-30E ended in 1979, the Spanish Army was already looking for a modernization program to improve the quality of the tank's mobility. Greece also had Leopard 1s and is the largest user of it, with over 500 units of Leopard 1A5s still in service. E 100; X Grille 15; X Vickers Light; X FV4202; X FV215b; X Chieftain Mk. [99] The second missile system is the AMX-30R (Roland) surface-to-air missile launching system, which began development in 1974. I know it doesnt have a stab which is huge but otherwise how do they compare against each other? In a nutshell, use the superb mobility with the cannon's perfection to flank and spank enemies, wait and hunt for the perfect positions and pick off the enemy tanks one by one, while always maintaining a good situational awareness. Using detailed illustrations and contemporary photographs, this companion volume to NVG 301, Tanks at the Iron Curtain 1946-60 focuses on key battle tanks and Development of the tank began in 1957 in cooperation with France. A single prototype was made and were publicly unveiled and tested in Saudi Arabia. [69] During the 1990s, the AMX-30 has also been used as a testbed for several stealth technologies, including air cooling of hull surfaces and the use of visual camouflage. Development was started in 1956. . [9] Of the three contractors, Renault withdrew from the program, while in early 1946 the French government selected AMX and SOMUA to continue the development. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The fire control depended on visual tracking, and so could only work in daylight and clear weather. Main battle tank of the Federal Republic of Germany. Expect a speed of 40-50 km/h off-road. A derived medium tank prototype of the latter, made in 1955, proved that it was possible to produce a tank with a first-rate gun and frontally protected with 80-millimeter (3.1in) steel equivalence within a weight constraint of 30 metric tons (33 short tons). In combination with a good gun depression of -9 (meaning, you can lower the gun quite extensively), an experienced Leopard I driver can exploit uneven terrain to effectively fight his enemies without showing much of his vehicle - or being in the inconvenient situation to leave his cover to return fire. 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