. ~1986 There are two steering stations, one on the bridge, and one up in the tower. Im not convinced that is exactly true. <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/Properties<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[ 0 0 612 792]/Type/Page>> 3. endobj ), U-Flex, Hy-Drive, IMCO, Latham, etc? 4.6 out of 5 stars 126. . 0000036345 00000 n Going to check the that the hoses are correct tomorrow. SeaStar Hydraulic Steering Fluid can be used in Hynautic, BayStar and BayStar Plus steering systems. Is there pressure on the cylinder? Custom bridge tube connects bleed ports on steering cylinder. Steering cylinders will be bled one at a time on multi-engine boats. Apr 23, 2004 #4 Re: Bleeding Hydraulic steering . Thank you for the nice video. New Hampshire _K!pMCECwIY0I8i/@ 2f^ 5daACx wjCr'j, 0000038071 00000 n [pfO']'xgVUeQ:E5\-.kxc*EY ;:\V`paF^]eoBeoUv?7hO2_fYf`E*%*Y, uspJU0HpFUQC%yGNL~8>t)e!3~_K,J}NeqKawG;=ct5>C>'`z0\e5l*bT@\X=h%d"9o]s^]Y;jYXvx{@F!$ Hynautic Purging Instructions You will need Adobe Reader to view these instructions or to print them. 0000028347 00000 n 0000040042 00000 n http://www.boatsteer.com/assets/Hynauti ctions.pdf. Exactly. When I helped my friend with his, I used the bleeders on the steering cylinder. Texas Dependable control for luxury cruisers, workboats and. After leaving my slip with and putting both clutches in forward I realized I didn't have any steering at the bridge helm but I had it in the lower helm. Wyoming I will post a link for some good directions and pictures on rebuilding a Hynautic helm - at the bottom of these directions is another link that takes you to the bleeding process alone with additional pictures. South Carolina 0000030358 00000 n 07-30-2012, 08:17 PM #13: That is if the installation was correct and you did not roll or twist the seal as you pushed it over the shaft. The G2 kit and bottle remain completely sealed during the entire process. Installed two new cranking batteries and on my 1979 28' FB and engines fired up beautifully. Connecticut Disconnect the steering cylinder from your engine, outdrive, or rudder and try to turn them by hand. by Tony Meola Feb 6th, '21, 21:23, Post , BayStar Hydraulic Steering Kit HK4200A-3 Review & Installation Guide. 4 0 obj Purge the line in that direction, tighten nut and loosen other and turn steering wheel the other way. Make sure you have pressure in the bleed tank first. Hydraulic steering makes handling high-torque engines and high-speed boats easy and safe. Its also red. 0000041273 00000 n Quebec Sorry it took so long to get back as i was not near a computer. Trouble bleeding Hynautic I have an older hynautic system. If they still have those sheets it'll make the explanation very easy. No Leaks. by Chanse Jun 11th, '21, 22:06, Post Wisconsin The only difference is that the steering ram has bleed screws on both ends, so you turn the helm to one side and bleed the compressed end of the ram, then go hard the other way and bleed that end of the ram. by Tony Meola Feb 8th, '21, 21:44, Post UFLEX and HyNautic are brands of Italian Manufacturer ULTRAFLEX GROUP About 15 years ago in the shipyard i worked in Italy we installed some of the square UFLEX systems and they where not good and lasted considerable less than the SeaStar; as just mentioned above the ram is at the rear of the boat, attached to the tie rod that is attached to the tiller arms,,it looks like a horizontal shock absorber with 2 black poly lines attached to it and does the job of moving the rudders,,,these lines are not the ones to loosen during bleeding,,,the bleed valves are on the opposite side of the ram's cylinder.. 0000030097 00000 n by Cturtle Feb 5th, '21, 03:09, Post Web Step By Step Process In Seastar Hydraulic Steering Bleeding. If theyre stiff, youll need to fix the issue by lubing the motor couplings or adjusting the rudder. All the Hynautic folks are gone since Morse sold out to Teleflex. The relief valve is NOT serviceable. Mar 16, 2016 #8 tunaorlater Ron O'Blenis B 38 175 Hinos 1989 Completed Great Loop Ray. I have manual at work, I'll scan and post tomorrow. Virginia Web bleeding a hynautic h50 helm 2 stations Web hynautic three line bleed use hynautic steering oil or light viscosity hydraulic. endobj Added oil to reservoir about full, pumped air to about 35 Lbs. Posted on 23 August 2016 by Brendan Casey. Help protect your boating environment by ensuring that all used oil is disposed of properly. Web 148 seastar, baystar & hynautic products: Web bleeding or purging a seastar hydraulic steering system is easy to do, but requires two people, so make sure you have an assistant on hand to help. Before you get started, you'll need to decide what type of vegetables you want to grow. I'll take a chance on Blue Heron's advice. o^v[9JI)TE)C[}sh y^Q)RmJ,@wlGD2`_URH7t_g;j.fBD-$#s9kTL@P8I_mH[ If your steering is slow or 'mushy': You probably have air in the system. Just find the valves, open them, go to the bridge wheel and turn it about 60 turns in one direction, then 60 turns in the other direction. <>>> Will pull unit for a rebuild. John, My reservoir is at the lower helm. Maintenance of pump 20 HB; Maintenance of pumps 26/40/50 HB; Maintenance of pumps 30/35 HB; Maintenance of pumps 29/35 CT HB; Filling and bleeding LS hydraulic steering system with Speedy Purge; Assembly and disassembly of cylinders fitted with clips 0000015203 00000 n 2 0 obj When I bought the boat, the tower helm was not working at all. These steering systems can be tricky to repair and bleed, some have gone so far to say that it cant be done without extensive training and experience. Typical example of a 3 line steering system: Many of our pages require Adobe Reader be installed on your machine. L=I\*+#*Q:@w_+sS;IL{HE2"8W1MdVnRVpP51|8J`kUn'HMm`3>q!|gh\? I had no problem before I changed the seal kit and have even replaced the upper helm steering with Sea star conversion. These 12 easy steps allows for the DIY person to do alone. p)wC[iInN!VkKpvKuTF#'Q R)b):)O)s?b ce{=GuXzt}A+IaH#:yGEEwV"uN7d Bu^8 N:&4 H &UCmDM?gCEdE{TW New Brunswick Labrador Nothing moves boats better. Here is an explanation of exactly, Guide to Hynautic Steering Troubleshooting, Hynautic Steering Bleeding Instructions: Step-by-Step DIY Guide, Hynautic Steering Troubleshooting: The Complete Guide, Hynautic Steering System Owners Manual: Installation and Service Instructions, SE Sport Hydrofoil Reviews: Improved Outboard Motor Control, Nauticus Smart Tabs Review: Trim Tabs To Boost Your Boats Performance, Bennett Trim Tabs Review: Achieve Unmatched Boat Stability and Performance, Lenco Trim Tab Actuator 101 Replacement Guide, Lenco Auto Glide Review, Installation, & Owners Manual. Turning the wheel either way numerous times doesnt seem to do anything. 0000040483 00000 n by Chanse Feb 6th, '21, 11:09, Post Thats right, one person job. To determine which way to turn the wheel loosen one of the nuts and rotate the steering wheel. cracking lines to bleed upper station 4 or 5 times. when feeling the wheel bite applying pressure at wheel both directions to squeeze out more bubbles also turning lower. Thanks so much! The pressurized accumulator will force all air to the highest point as you turn the wheel in each direction. 1+}Thmy):C~g\L;Uo[$qSNTFATz by Yannis Feb 7th, '21, 23:33, Post A Power Circuit To Carry Out The Working Duty. <> The H-21 helm is a heavy-duty three-line helm used in Hynautic big boat systems. Dont like the idea of messing with anything down there. H-20 series fluid leak. Mississippi Delaware Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. I use only SeaStar systems 2 pistons for twin 300, 1 x twin 150, 1 x for single 150 and 1 piston for single 300 and they work fine. by Carl Jun 17th, '21, 06:15, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. West Virginia 0000038093 00000 n The hynautics is good, but they have problems with the hoses flexing which can cause oscillation. the bleeding is done at the 2 fittings on the steering ram,,not on the bottom of the reservoir,,,there may be a clear polly hose that goes between 2 fittings on the ram,,it's about a foot long,,,just pull the hose off one side at a time and put the end in a cup,,have someone turn the wheel constantly in one direction untill pressure builds up and Engines: 480CE. New South Wales I could actually hear the air hiss as it exited the relief valve when I turned the wheel. STOP! Florida 0000034649 00000 n FOR SALE! Loosening the hex nuts and turning the wheel bypasses the cylinder and allows the helm pump to circulate the oil in a loop. 0000001619 00000 n Steering system by andiamo Tue, 04/28/2015 - 09:50 : 3 : 1,379 : by Thoward Fri, 05/29/2015 - 17:52 : Normal topic: hynautic steering systems by Blackfin Mike Mon, 05/27/2013 - 21:12 : 10 : 3,571 : by PICSWG Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:08 . Was the helm tight after you assembled it before reinstalling? _____ Jay Leonard . South Australia Find the hynautic manual online on bleeding of the system. I wouldn't worry too much about bleeding the cylinders if you can't get to them. You should be able to find a model number on the back of the helm, Always starts with an H if it is a Hynautic unit, after Teleflex bought them out it may have changed. 1. Correct any leaks that are found. If the gauge only shows a couple of psi, get a bicycle pump and pump it up a little and your problem will be solved. There is likely a little entrapped air, it took me forever to get this system bled, I thought I was done, and I had to re do both helms several more times because of the fluid I lost while rebuilding the helm. For 3 line systems, helm, reservoir and cylinder or cylinders: For 3 line systems with a seperate releif/purge valve. Those screws are 'staked' and not supposed to be removed just backed out some for bleeding. Rhode Island I wouldn't advise vigorous turning as you will emulsify the air in the oil and it will not bubble out of the reservoir as easily. South Dakota For 2 line systems, helm and cylinder only, no seperate reservoir, H-60, H-80, H-100 series: Click Here Yes, I do have the pressure tank. They back out some to allow fluid to pass. HWmoH$ Whether youre growing them in your backyard or buying them from the store, tomatoes can be a great addition to any meal. <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[ 0 0 612 792]/Type/Page>> Here is an explanation of exactly, Hynautic Steering Bleeding Instructions: Step-by-Step DIY Guide, Hynautic Steering Troubleshooting: The Complete Guide, Hynautic Steering System Owners Manual: Installation and Service Instructions, SE Sport Hydrofoil Reviews: Improved Outboard Motor Control, Nauticus Smart Tabs Review: Trim Tabs To Boost Your Boats Performance, Bennett Trim Tabs Review: Achieve Unmatched Boat Stability and Performance, Lenco Trim Tab Actuator 101 Replacement Guide, Lenco Auto Glide Review, Installation, & Owners Manual. Isn t that wrong ? I developed a squeak from the helm unit so decided to pull apart, clean and reinstall, all seemed to go back together fine. Everything on google is about the sea star system bleeding from the steering wheel and of course I don't have that system. A small amount of air will be trapped at the high point in each sender head. Georgia 0000041953 00000 n You may want to look at another steering system like a Seastar or dual cable. As I discussed this seal kit installation with some fellow boaters, they seem to think that the steering is noe too tight. Teleflex Capilano works similarly using a device called a Uniflow valve. Joined Aug 3, 2003 Messages 122. In the Forum, choose the Index tab. That means create air bubbles that move through the system. rX0tsp*>YB. One of our members writes: "We have a simple hydraulic system: pump and 4 double-acting cylinders. Product Compatiblity: Compatible with Seastar hydraulic steering system, suitable for Seastar inboard and outboard hydraulic rudders. 0000014951 00000 n FREE delivery Apr 19 - 20 . Its dyed red and its easy to spot leaks. There are only two reservoirs still available if you need to replace yours. Its on a Bayliner 3288. Turning the wheel fast in one direction is actually pumping the oil out at the engine side. Locate and loosen the two screws on the relief valve, then remove the hex plug on top of the reservoir and fill it with oil. Montana If the cylinder is not equipped with bleeders, crack open the fitting connections. Click the "Get Adobe Reader" icon above for your free download. Web Hynautic, Teleflex, And All Other Brands Of Hydraulic Steering Sold And Repaired. It was tight when I re-installed it, same fluid. I reattached the helm, bled the lines for any air but no rudder movement at all! Re: Bleeding and Debugging Hynautic Steering System Scrod is right, you need to open both bleeder valves and then fill & presurize the tank. I second what Iron Worker said. Has anyone else had this issue? Check the sight glass on the side of the reservoir and top off if necessary. You may not need to worry about air just to add more oil. 0000033054 00000 n Utah Additionally, watering daily with s, This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. Location: Massachusettes. If you are turning in the right direction to bleed the cylinder shouldn't move. This should take care of the problems you are having. Yes, Chanse, the only difference being that with Ouzo you don't seem to bother with that stiffness, to be honest nothing seems to bother you after a certain quantity! 0000025062 00000 n M. Mike Langianese Petty Officer 2nd Class. Our New Catalog is Finally Online, Click Here. California Seems OK now but after using awhile and engaging the auto pilot may need to bleed upper some more or possibly the steering cylinder. Still having trouble turning the wheel? Seastar Quad Ring .210 Hyd Helm 20/Pk Hs6037. Kit includes hose with screw cap which fits SeaStar or equivalent oil bottles. Hawaii We are the largest repair facility for older hydraulic steering units in the country. Hynautic H50 Repair & Bleeding December 18, 2021 - by Jarod - 13 Comments. Click here to see the reservoirs. Step 1. 0000019112 00000 n Country: United States. Bled the system. Outboard Specialty Tools Bubble Purge G2 Hydraulic Steering Bleed and Purge Kit for Seastar OST-PBB.001. SeaKnights.com provides lists of the best marine hydraulic steering products for boaters who quickly want to know what to get. Ironworker Posts: 605 Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:59 pm. when a pair of engine steering cylinder hoses are connected together with the flare union. Step 2. If you can't find it, I'll light up my old server and get it for you. W=>J]0l1OoY~~ce2j,L3+s0%_7@foS`w$IX!1b. <> Air bubbles accumulate in the reservoir. Hi, one of the helms is leaking oil. State/Province: Does the wheel turn smoothly in both directions? If you removed the helm pump you should loosen both srews on the lock valve near the rudders. @2b?%-N @>JJlB,hK4ha)CP,78)zz;h3_#Z_Jp`oByA}0>iyf}zp57";_H*I2F nt How to Bleed Hydraulic Steering Boating Magazine Follow Optimize outboard performance by learning how to bleed hydraulic steering. Hynautic H26S that was leaking oil on my 1976 B26 now rebuilt and reinstalled on upper station. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Thank You. 5 0 obj Your steering system is not power steering. Manitoba Busted or leaky cylinder seals. the bleeding is done at the 2 fittings on the steering ram,,not on the bottom of the reservoir,,,there may be a clear polly hose that goes between 2 fittings on the ram,,it's about a foot long,,,just pull the hose off one side at a time and put the end in a cup,,have someone turn the wheel constantly in one direction untill pressure builds up and crack the fitting to let the air out,,,then do the other side.you really need to read the instructions,,they may be available at the hynautic website which is now teleflex, Go on Hynautic web site & you can find proper instructions on bleeding system. Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. If everything is moving smoothly, lube all the fittings on your engine, outdrive, or rudder as preventative maintenance and re-attach the cylinder. Feedback is eliminated and holding a steady course is simplified . Re: Bleeding hynautic steering system There two 1/2' studs (nuts) on the adapter manifold near the rear cylinder. endobj The wheel will turn the ruder to the right, but will not turn the rudder to the left? What a quart of Teleflex and Hynautic fluid costs, you can purchase almost 3 quarts of the Aircraft Fluid. 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